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A leading Kingston GP has said he may not take the swine flu vaccination because it "has been rushed out" but has advised vulnerable patients to have the free jab.
As many as 22,000 people identified as high-risk including pensioners, pregnant women and cancer patients in Kingston will start to receive letters over the next few weeks from GPs to arrange vaccinations against the pandemic.
A further 3,900 frontline NHS and social care staff including nurses, doctors, and care home workers will also be offered the vaccination as part of the first wave of injections.
The number of cases is expected to rise after a summer lull when only 2,000 people collected Tamiflu for swine flu.
Doctors and nurses have been urged to take the injection amid fears many NHS staff will refuse because they believe the vaccine has not been properly tested.
But Dr Jeremy Harris, chairman of the Kingston and Richmond Local Medical Committee and who described himself as a needle-phobic, said he would wait and see.
He said: "I'm considering my options. I think there may be some issues about how extensively it has been tested.
"I'm not in any at-risk group. We are all aware that the vaccine has been rushed out.
"But there's no doubt that people at risk should have the vaccine."
But Dr Jonathan Hildebrand, director of public health for NHS Kingston, said the jab was safe.
He said: "The vaccine has been rigorously tested and is the best line of defence against this virus so I would strongly urge all of those in the priority groups to have the vaccine.
"The swine flu vaccine does not provide protection against seasonal flu, so patients who normally get the seasonal flu jab will still need to have that separately."
A spokesman said in order to be licensed the vaccine must be safe and said a question and answerleaflet would be handed out by GPs to patients on its safety.
Nobody has been hospitalised or died from swine flu so far - despite worst case scenarios predicting 155 people dying from the pandemic.
Dr Michael Barry, of private Coombe Medical Practice, said after weighing up the pros and cons neither he, his wife or children would take the vaccine and admitted his refusal could damage the public health message NHS Kingston was trying to spread.
He said: "I don't think it is irresponsible. I think it is responsible and I think it is not totally honest with your patients not to declare your own status.
"I think it will have a knock-on effect as I think they want GPs not only to support it but take it as well. I think quite a lot of GPs will not be having it." The at-risk patients:
. Pregnant women
. Household contacts of people with compromised immune systems, eg people in regular close contact with patients on treatment for cancer
. People aged 65 and over in the current seasonal flu vaccine clinical at-risk groups. This does not include otherwise healthy over 65-year-olds, as they appear to have some natural immunity to the virus.
> comment Comments (0) Have your say » > By David Lindsell »
> A leading Kingston GP has said he may not take the swine flu vaccination > because it "has been rushed out" but has advised vulnerable patients to > have the free jab.
> As many as 22,000 people identified as high-risk including pensioners, > pregnant women and cancer patients in Kingston will start to receive > letters over the next few weeks from GPs to arrange vaccinations against > the pandemic.
> A further 3,900 frontline NHS and social care staff including nurses, > doctors, and care home workers will also be offered the vaccination as > part of the first wave of injections.
> The number of cases is expected to rise after a summer lull when only > 2,000 people collected Tamiflu for swine flu.
> Doctors and nurses have been urged to take the injection amid fears many > NHS staff will refuse because they believe the vaccine has not been > properly tested.
> But Dr Jeremy Harris, chairman of the Kingston and Richmond Local Medical > Committee and who described himself as a needle-phobic, said he would wait > and see.
> He said: "I'm considering my options. I think there may be some issues > about how extensively it has been tested.
> "I'm not in any at-risk group. We are all aware that the vaccine has been > rushed out.
> "But there's no doubt that people at risk should have the vaccine."
> But Dr Jonathan Hildebrand, director of public health for NHS Kingston, > said the jab was safe.
> He said: "The vaccine has been rigorously tested and is the best line of > defence against this virus so I would strongly urge all of those in the > priority groups to have the vaccine.
> "The swine flu vaccine does not provide protection against seasonal flu, > so patients who normally get the seasonal flu jab will still need to have > that separately."
> A spokesman said in order to be licensed the vaccine must be safe and said > a question and answerleaflet would be handed out by GPs to patients on its > safety.
> Nobody has been hospitalised or died from swine flu so far - despite worst > case scenarios predicting 155 people dying from the pandemic.
> Dr Michael Barry, of private Coombe Medical Practice, said after weighing > up the pros and cons neither he, his wife or children would take the > vaccine and admitted his refusal could damage the public health message > NHS Kingston was trying to spread.
> He said: "I don't think it is irresponsible. I think it is responsible and > I think it is not totally honest with your patients not to declare your > own status.
> "I think it will have a knock-on effect as I think they want GPs not only > to support it but take it as well. I think quite a lot of GPs will not be > having it." > The at-risk patients:
> . Pregnant women
> . Household contacts of people with compromised immune systems, eg people > in regular close contact with patients on treatment for cancer
> . People aged 65 and over in the current seasonal flu vaccine clinical > at-risk groups. This does not include otherwise healthy over 65-year-olds, > as they appear to have some natural immunity to the virus.
> Source: Kingston NHS
"But there's no doubt that people at risk should have the vaccine."
I can live with that, so far as the flu vaccine is concerned.
> > comment Comments (0) Have your say » > > By David Lindsell »
> > A leading Kingston GP has said he may not take the swine flu vaccination > > because it "has been rushed out" but has advised vulnerable patients to > > have the free jab.
> > As many as 22,000 people identified as high-risk including pensioners, > > pregnant women and cancer patients in Kingston will start to receive > > letters over the next few weeks from GPs to arrange vaccinations against > > the pandemic.
> > A further 3,900 frontline NHS and social care staff including nurses, > > doctors, and care home workers will also be offered the vaccination as > > part of the first wave of injections.
> > The number of cases is expected to rise after a summer lull when only > > 2,000 people collected Tamiflu for swine flu.
> > Doctors and nurses have been urged to take the injection amid fears many > > NHS staff will refuse because they believe the vaccine has not been > > properly tested.
> > But Dr Jeremy Harris, chairman of the Kingston and Richmond Local Medical > > Committee and who described himself as a needle-phobic, said he would wait > > and see.
> > He said: "I'm considering my options. I think there may be some issues > > about how extensively it has been tested.
> > "I'm not in any at-risk group. We are all aware that the vaccine has been > > rushed out.
> > "But there's no doubt that people at risk should have the vaccine."
> > But Dr Jonathan Hildebrand, director of public health for NHS Kingston, > > said the jab was safe.
> > He said: "The vaccine has been rigorously tested and is the best line of > > defence against this virus so I would strongly urge all of those in the > > priority groups to have the vaccine.
> > "The swine flu vaccine does not provide protection against seasonal flu, > > so patients who normally get the seasonal flu jab will still need to have > > that separately."
> > A spokesman said in order to be licensed the vaccine must be safe and said > > a question and answerleaflet would be handed out by GPs to patients on its > > safety.
> > Nobody has been hospitalised or died from swine flu so far - despite worst > > case scenarios predicting 155 people dying from the pandemic.
> > Dr Michael Barry, of private Coombe Medical Practice, said after weighing > > up the pros and cons neither he, his wife or children would take the > > vaccine and admitted his refusal could damage the public health message > > NHS Kingston was trying to spread.
> > He said: "I don't think it is irresponsible. I think it is responsible and > > I think it is not totally honest with your patients not to declare your > > own status.
> > "I think it will have a knock-on effect as I think they want GPs not only > > to support it but take it as well. I think quite a lot of GPs will not be > > having it." > > The at-risk patients:
> > . Pregnant women
> > . Household contacts of people with compromised immune systems, eg people > > in regular close contact with patients on treatment for cancer
> > . People aged 65 and over in the current seasonal flu vaccine clinical > > at-risk groups. This does not include otherwise healthy over 65-year-olds, > > as they appear to have some natural immunity to the virus.
> > Source: Kingston NHS
> "But there's no doubt that people at risk should have the vaccine."
> I can live with that, so far as the flu vaccine is concerned.
But John cannot, since his subject line is quite misleading.
> A leading Kingston GP has said he may not take the swine flu > vaccination because it "has been rushed out" but has advised > vulnerable patients to have the free jab.
> He said: "I'm considering my options. I think there may be some issues about > how extensively it has been tested.
> "I'm not in any at-risk group. We are all aware that the vaccine has been > rushed out.
> "But there's no doubt that people at risk should have the vaccine."
So he wants his patients to be guinea pigs for the vaccine that "has been rushed out", and "he would wait and see" how it is going and decide whether it is good for him. And he even dares to say it.
> > comment Comments (0) Have your say > > By David Lindsell
> > A leading Kingston GP has said he may not take the swine flu vaccination > > because it "has been rushed out" but has advised vulnerable patients to > > have the free jab.
> > As many as 22,000 people identified as high-risk including pensioners, > > pregnant women and cancer patients in Kingston will start to receive > > letters over the next few weeks from GPs to arrange vaccinations against > > the pandemic.
> > A further 3,900 frontline NHS and social care staff including nurses, > > doctors, and care home workers will also be offered the vaccination as > > part of the first wave of injections.
> > The number of cases is expected to rise after a summer lull when only > > 2,000 people collected Tamiflu for swine flu.
> > Doctors and nurses have been urged to take the injection amid fears many > > NHS staff will refuse because they believe the vaccine has not been > > properly tested.
> > But Dr Jeremy Harris, chairman of the Kingston and Richmond Local Medical > > Committee and who described himself as a needle-phobic, said he would wait > > and see.
> > He said: "I'm considering my options. I think there may be some issues > > about how extensively it has been tested.
> > "I'm not in any at-risk group. We are all aware that the vaccine has been > > rushed out.
> > "But there's no doubt that people at risk should have the vaccine."
> > But Dr Jonathan Hildebrand, director of public health for NHS Kingston, > > said the jab was safe.
> > He said: "The vaccine has been rigorously tested and is the best line of > > defence against this virus so I would strongly urge all of those in the > > priority groups to have the vaccine.
> > "The swine flu vaccine does not provide protection against seasonal flu, > > so patients who normally get the seasonal flu jab will still need to have > > that separately."
> > A spokesman said in order to be licensed the vaccine must be safe and said > > a question and answerleaflet would be handed out by GPs to patients on its > > safety.
> > Nobody has been hospitalised or died from swine flu so far - despite worst > > case scenarios predicting 155 people dying from the pandemic.
> > Dr Michael Barry, of private Coombe Medical Practice, said after weighing > > up the pros and cons neither he, his wife or children would take the > > vaccine and admitted his refusal could damage the public health message > > NHS Kingston was trying to spread.
> > He said: "I don't think it is irresponsible. I think it is responsible and > > I think it is not totally honest with your patients not to declare your > > own status.
> > "I think it will have a knock-on effect as I think they want GPs not only > > to support it but take it as well. I think quite a lot of GPs will not be > > having it." > > The at-risk patients:
> > . Pregnant women
> > . Household contacts of people with compromised immune systems, eg people > > in regular close contact with patients on treatment for cancer
> > . People aged 65 and over in the current seasonal flu vaccine clinical > > at-risk groups. This does not include otherwise healthy over 65-year-olds, > > as they appear to have some natural immunity to the virus.
> > Source: Kingston NHS
> "But there's no doubt that people at risk should have the vaccine."
> I can live with that, so far as the flu vaccine is concerned.
Who is at risk? The swine vaccine is killing people, and has devastation side effects.
> > > comment Comments (0) Have your say > > > By David Lindsell
> > > A leading Kingston GP has said he may not take the swine flu vaccination > > > because it "has been rushed out" but has advised vulnerable patients to > > > have the free jab.
> > > As many as 22,000 people identified as high-risk including pensioners, > > > pregnant women and cancer patients in Kingston will start to receive > > > letters over the next few weeks from GPs to arrange vaccinations against > > > the pandemic.
> > > A further 3,900 frontline NHS and social care staff including nurses, > > > doctors, and care home workers will also be offered the vaccination as > > > part of the first wave of injections.
> > > The number of cases is expected to rise after a summer lull when only > > > 2,000 people collected Tamiflu for swine flu.
> > > Doctors and nurses have been urged to take the injection amid fears many > > > NHS staff will refuse because they believe the vaccine has not been > > > properly tested.
> > > But Dr Jeremy Harris, chairman of the Kingston and Richmond Local Medical > > > Committee and who described himself as a needle-phobic, said he would wait > > > and see.
> > > He said: "I'm considering my options. I think there may be some issues > > > about how extensively it has been tested.
> > > "I'm not in any at-risk group. We are all aware that the vaccine has been > > > rushed out.
> > > "But there's no doubt that people at risk should have the vaccine."
> > > But Dr Jonathan Hildebrand, director of public health for NHS Kingston, > > > said the jab was safe.
> > > He said: "The vaccine has been rigorously tested and is the best line of > > > defence against this virus so I would strongly urge all of those in the > > > priority groups to have the vaccine.
> > > "The swine flu vaccine does not provide protection against seasonal flu, > > > so patients who normally get the seasonal flu jab will still need to have > > > that separately."
> > > A spokesman said in order to be licensed the vaccine must be safe and said > > > a question and answerleaflet would be handed out by GPs to patients on its > > > safety.
> > > Nobody has been hospitalised or died from swine flu so far - despite worst > > > case scenarios predicting 155 people dying from the pandemic.
> > > Dr Michael Barry, of private Coombe Medical Practice, said after weighing > > > up the pros and cons neither he, his wife or children would take the > > > vaccine and admitted his refusal could damage the public health message > > > NHS Kingston was trying to spread.
> > > He said: "I don't think it is irresponsible. I think it is responsible and > > > I think it is not totally honest with your patients not to declare your > > > own status.
> > > "I think it will have a knock-on effect as I think they want GPs not only > > > to support it but take it as well. I think quite a lot of GPs will not be > > > having it." > > > The at-risk patients:
> > > . Pregnant women
> > > . Household contacts of people with compromised immune systems, eg people > > > in regular close contact with patients on treatment for cancer
> > > . People aged 65 and over in the current seasonal flu vaccine clinical > > > at-risk groups. This does not include otherwise healthy over 65-year-olds, > > > as they appear to have some natural immunity to the virus.
> > > Source: Kingston NHS
> > "But there's no doubt that people at risk should have the vaccine."
> > I can live with that, so far as the flu vaccine is concerned.
> Who is at risk? The swine vaccine is killing people, and has > devastation side effects.
1) There is no proof of anyone dieing from the vaccine.
2) There are very substantial numbers dieing from the disease.
3) There is no evidence showing that there are significant side effects. The cheerleader did not get anything from the vaccine. It is PSYCHOGENIC dystonia.
If you listen to government officials or you watch the mainstream news, you may very well get the idea that all doctors and medical experts believe that the H1N1 swine flu vaccine is perfectly safe and that everyone should get it. Based on those assurances, millions of Americans are lining up to get themselves and their children injected with a vaccine that they think will help them.
But the truth is that there is another side to this debate. An increasing number of doctors and health experts are speaking out about the dangers of vaccines including the dangers of the H1N1 swine flu vaccines.
The video above was filmed at the 4th International Public Conference on Vaccinations (sponsored by the National Vaccine Information Center) earlier this October. In the video you will see medical doctors and leading health experts explain in very simple terms what is in some of these vaccines and why they are dangerous.
If you know of someone who plans on having their children take the H1N1 swine flu vaccine, please share this video with them. In addition, please share with them our recent article entitled "Vaccines Are Bad For You".
The truth is that whenever Americans are exposed to both sides of the vaccine debate the less likely they are to take the vaccines. It is time for both sides to be heard and for people to be able to make informed decisions.
> > > > comment Comments (0) Have your say > > > > By David Lindsell
> > > > A leading Kingston GP has said he may not take the swine flu vaccination > > > > because it "has been rushed out" but has advised vulnerable patients to > > > > have the free jab.
> > > > As many as 22,000 people identified as high-risk including pensioners, > > > > pregnant women and cancer patients in Kingston will start to receive > > > > letters over the next few weeks from GPs to arrange vaccinations against > > > > the pandemic.
> > > > A further 3,900 frontline NHS and social care staff including nurses, > > > > doctors, and care home workers will also be offered the vaccination as > > > > part of the first wave of injections.
> > > > The number of cases is expected to rise after a summer lull when only > > > > 2,000 people collected Tamiflu for swine flu.
> > > > Doctors and nurses have been urged to take the injection amid fears many > > > > NHS staff will refuse because they believe the vaccine has not been > > > > properly tested.
> > > > But Dr Jeremy Harris, chairman of the Kingston and Richmond Local Medical > > > > Committee and who described himself as a needle-phobic, said he would wait > > > > and see.
> > > > He said: "I'm considering my options. I think there may be some issues > > > > about how extensively it has been tested.
> > > > "I'm not in any at-risk group. We are all aware that the vaccine has been > > > > rushed out.
> > > > "But there's no doubt that people at risk should have the vaccine."
> > > > But Dr Jonathan Hildebrand, director of public health for NHS Kingston, > > > > said the jab was safe.
> > > > He said: "The vaccine has been rigorously tested and is the best line of > > > > defence against this virus so I would strongly urge all of those in the > > > > priority groups to have the vaccine.
> > > > "The swine flu vaccine does not provide protection against seasonal flu, > > > > so patients who normally get the seasonal flu jab will still need to have > > > > that separately."
> > > > A spokesman said in order to be licensed the vaccine must be safe and said > > > > a question and answerleaflet would be handed out by GPs to patients on its > > > > safety.
> > > > Nobody has been hospitalised or died from swine flu so far - despite worst > > > > case scenarios predicting 155 people dying from the pandemic.
> > > > Dr Michael Barry, of private Coombe Medical Practice, said after weighing > > > > up the pros and cons neither he, his wife or children would take the > > > > vaccine and admitted his refusal could damage the public health message > > > > NHS Kingston was trying to spread.
> > > > He said: "I don't think it is irresponsible. I think it is responsible and > > > > I think it is not totally honest with your patients not to declare your > > > > own status.
> > > > "I think it will have a knock-on effect as I think they want GPs not only > > > > to support it but take it as well. I think quite a lot of GPs will not be > > > > having it." > > > > The at-risk patients:
> > > > . Pregnant women
> > > > . Household contacts of people with compromised immune systems, eg people > > > > in regular close contact with patients on treatment for cancer
> > > > . People aged 65 and over in the current seasonal flu vaccine clinical > > > > at-risk groups. This does not include otherwise healthy over 65-year-olds, > > > > as they appear to have some natural immunity to the virus.
> > > > Source: Kingston NHS
> > > "But there's no doubt that people at risk should have the vaccine."
> > > I can live with that, so far as the flu vaccine is concerned.
> > Who is at risk? The swine vaccine is killing people, and has > > devastation side effects.
> 1) There is no proof of anyone dieing from the vaccine.
> 2) There are very substantial numbers dieing from the disease.
> 3) There is no evidence showing that there are significant side > effects. The cheerleader did not get anything from the vaccine. It is > PSYCHOGENIC dystonia.
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