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Irish Mike  
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 More options Nov 4, 6:33 pm
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From: "Irish Mike" <ad7c...@webnntp.invalid>
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:03:12 -0800
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 6:33 pm
Subject: Legal Gambling Passes in Ohio
Ohioans voted 53% to 47% to approve Issue 3, which is a constitutional
amendment to allow legal casino gambling in the state.  The group
supporting Issue 3 is Penn Gaming and the owner of the Cleveland Cavilers
NBA team.  The opposition was MTR Gaming which owns casinos in West
Virginia and race tracks in Ohio.  This constitutional amendment to allow
legal gambling has been on the ballot in Ohio five times in the last
nineteen years, and was voted down each time.  However, the difference
this time is that Ohio's economy is in terrible shape and the unemployment
rate is one of the highest in the country.  

Ohio is surrounded by legal casino gambling in Indiana, Michigan,
Pennsylvania and West Virginia.  Studies show that $1,000,000,000.00 Ohio
gaming dollars are spent out of state each year.  Issue 3 backers promised
to build four casinos; Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus and Toledo, which
would create 34,000 new jobs and generate hundreds of millions of new tax
revenue each year.  They say they could break ground on the casinos by mid
2010 and have them up and running in 2012.

However, the Issue 3 opponents say they are not done fighting and may file
lawsuits to try and stop construction of the casinos.

Irish Mike

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O-PGManager  
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 More options Nov 5, 1:06 pm
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From: "O-PGManager" <ad63...@webnntp.invalid>
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:36:39 -0800
Local: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 1:06 pm
Subject: Re: Legal Gambling Passes in Ohio

> which
> would create 34,000 new jobs and generate hundreds of millions of new tax
> revenue each year.

Always curious how people come to the conclusion that casinos are great
economic engines.  Yes, they create jobs, but for the most part are
completely parasitic.

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Ramashiva Jr  
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 More options Nov 5, 1:23 pm
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From: Ramashiva Jr <BeaFor...@msn.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:53:31 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 1:23 pm
Subject: Re: Legal Gambling Passes in Ohio
On Nov 4, 5:36 pm, "O-PGManager" <ad63...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:

> > which
> > would create 34,000 new jobs and generate hundreds of millions of new tax
> > revenue each year.

> Always curious how people come to the conclusion that casinos are great
> economic engines.  Yes, they create jobs, but for the most part are
> completely parasitic.

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In this case the parasite is Penn., and they're sucking out all the
money from stupids from Ohio. Kind of like an arms race, where two or
more locales have to build bigger and better draws for the stupids
from surrounding areas. If you don't participate then the vacuum sucks
out ALL the stupid money.

 Recently, I was in Erie, Pa and I dropped in on the local 'casino'/
slot parlor. I never seen anything like it before. More slots in one
place then any other in the world. I don't know what the odds were,
but I don't think they were that good. I'm thinking lottery odds. Any
way, it looked like they had emptied out the nursing homes. They were
hundreds of junket buses. More blue haired old ladies and walkers and
oxegen tanks then I have ever seen. Figured I'd eat in the restuarant,
but it was like dining at IKEA, so I took a pass on that. Surely there
must be more to old age then that.


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Schmedley  
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 More options Nov 5, 5:00 pm
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From: "Schmedley" <schmege...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:30:17 -0500
Local: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 5:00 pm
Subject: Re: Legal Gambling Passes in Ohio

"Ramashiva Jr" <BeaFor...@msn.com> wrote in message

news:6b5e2652-c097-4db3-8611-acb92168f9d5@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 4, 5:36 pm, "O-PGManager" <ad63...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:

> > which
> > would create 34,000 new jobs and generate hundreds of millions of new
> > tax
> > revenue each year.

> Always curious how people come to the conclusion that casinos are great
> economic engines. Yes, they create jobs, but for the most part are
> completely parasitic.

> -------
> looking for a better newsgroup-reader? -www.recgroups.com

In this case the parasite is Penn., and they're sucking out all the
money from stupids from Ohio. Kind of like an arms race, where two or
more locales have to build bigger and better draws for the stupids
from surrounding areas. If you don't participate then the vacuum sucks
out ALL the stupid money.

 Recently, I was in Erie, Pa and I dropped in on the local 'casino'/
slot parlor. I never seen anything like it before. More slots in one
place then any other in the world. I don't know what the odds were,
but I don't think they were that good. I'm thinking lottery odds. Any
way, it looked like they had emptied out the nursing homes. They were
hundreds of junket buses. More blue haired old ladies and walkers and
oxegen tanks then I have ever seen. Figured I'd eat in the restuarant,
but it was like dining at IKEA, so I took a pass on that. Surely there
must be more to old age then that.

---

The odds in PA slots are brutal, thanks to a 50% tax on slots revenue.

The state legislature is in the provess of moving a table games bill, but
the hangup since September is the tax rate.  Most of the slots parlors have
built excess floor space and can rampup tables pretty fast.


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Jerry Sturdivant  
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 More options Nov 6, 1:51 am
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From: "Jerry Sturdivant" <jerr...@cox.net>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:21:44 -0800
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 1:51 am
Subject: Re: Legal Gambling Passes in Ohio

"Ramashiva Jr"

> Recently, I was in Erie, Pa and I dropped in on the local
> 'casino'/ slot parlor. I never seen anything like it before.
> More slots in one place then any other in the world. I don't
> know what the odds were, but I don't think they were that
> good. I'm thinking lottery odds. Any way, it looked like
> they had emptied out the nursing homes. They were hundreds
> of junket buses. More blue haired old ladies and walkers
> and oxegen tanks then I have ever seen. Figured I'd eat
> in the restuarant, but it was like dining at IKEA, so I
> took a pass on that. Surely there must be more to old age
> then that.

It's the social setting. The old folks can sit in their rooms and watch day
time televisions. They can gather on the patio, in all forms of weather, and
talk. Or they can jump on the busses supplied by our local casinos and spend
the day with friends; seeing a movie; eating in the Buffets, playing bingo,
or sitting the sports lounge and watching the big screens. Discretionary
spending is just that.

So when our old aunt in North Las Vegas calls and asks to get together, we
meet at the Red Rock or Texas Station and enjoy the day. Sometimes we meet
at one of the big malls. It's life in the slow lane.

Jerry (passing) 'n Vegas

- No individual raindrop considers itself responsible for the flood.


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johnny_t  
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 More options Nov 6, 5:47 pm
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From: johnny_t <nobod...@home.com>
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:17:24 -0800
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 5:47 pm
Subject: Re: Legal Gambling Passes in Ohio

O-PGManager wrote:
> Always curious how people come to the conclusion that casinos are great
> economic engines.  Yes, they create jobs, but for the most part are
> completely parasitic.

The US as it moves from manufacturing, the entire "service" economy is
parasitic.

However, it can be easily argued that movement is wealth.  In which
case, casinos, salesmen, ad people, customer service representative,
fast order cooks, massage therapists, and hookers are indeed creating
"wealth".

That economy really is the movement of money and not the creation of things.

It is those that save, hoard, and don't move money, or make money off of
money, that are indeed the parasites.  That they destroy economy rather
than make economy.  Then again, there destruction of money by hoarding,
is probably useful overall, in that it keeps down inflation.


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