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besame...@localnet.com  
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From: besame...@localnet.com
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 04:16:22 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 11:46 pm
Subject: Rib Roast
Hi!
Got a great buy on a huge Cross Rib Roast from Koger's, here in
Tucson.

Best Way to cook...oven, crock pot, grill, slice and fry, etcl ?

can I cut it into small or individual pieces for a bachelor(me) or do
I cook the whole thing and freeze all but a few portions?

Never had a Cross Rib Roast before.

ThanX!  I AM learning!!


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From: Nancy2 <nancy-doo...@uiowa.edu>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 08:23:49 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Rib Roast
On Nov 3, 6:16 am, besame...@localnet.com wrote:

> Hi!
> Got a great buy on a huge Cross Rib Roast from Koger's, here in
> Tucson.

> Best Way to cook...oven, crock pot, grill, slice and fry, etcl ?

> can I cut it into small or individual pieces for a bachelor(me) or do
> I cook the whole thing and freeze all but a few portions?

> Never had a Cross Rib Roast before.

> ThanX!  I AM learning!!

Slice and fry?  I'm sorry, but you are way beyond help.  ;-)

Check out marthastewart.com/prime rib 101 recipe - perfect results
every time.

N.


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Dan Abel  
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From: Dan Abel <da...@sonic.net>
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:33:47 -0800
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Subject: Re: Rib Roast
In article
<418d885a-5169-4381-b122-35face5fe...@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,

"Great buy" should have been the first clue.  It's a pot roast.  I've
never cooked anything identified as "cross rib roast", but those darn
cows have ribs everywhere, so the fact that a cut of meat was within a
few feet of a rib doesn't mean much.

:-)

I did a Google and got a bunch of garbage:

http://www.google.com/search?q=cross+rib+roast&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t...
=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

The first site had a number of comments.  Almost everybody there was a
"certified executive chef".  There was a plain old "executive chef" who
knew that it was a pot roast.  The "certified executive chefs" all went
to Google to get their info.  Gee, does that mean that I'm a "certified
executive chef", because I can use Google?  Many of the certified
executive chefs said that you could roast this cut of meat, I guess
because it has the word "roast" in it.  Of course, "pot roast" has the
word "roast" in it, also.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
da...@sonic.net


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Bob Muncie  
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From: Bob Muncie <bob.mun...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:39:29 -0500
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Subject: Re: Rib Roast

You made me smile... thanks! I actually needed that right now.

And the way I think... "any roast is better than no roast".

Bob


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From: Nancy2 <nancy-doo...@uiowa.edu>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:02:15 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 7:32 am
Subject: Re: Rib Roast
On Nov 3, 6:16 am, besame...@localnet.com wrote:

> Hi!
> Got a great buy on a huge Cross Rib Roast from Koger's, here in
> Tucson.

> Best Way to cook...oven, crock pot, grill, slice and fry, etcl ?

> can I cut it into small or individual pieces for a bachelor(me) or do
> I cook the whole thing and freeze all but a few portions?

> Never had a Cross Rib Roast before.

> ThanX!  I AM learning!!

I have no clue what a "Cross" rib roast is - is that a brand of beef?
If it's a rib roast, bone-in or boneless (and rolled & tied):

(If it isn't a rib roast as described, you're on your own.)

1 rib roast (9 to 10 pounds) with 4 to 6 ribs
6 tablespoons extra-virgin olive oil
2 tablespoons all-purpose flour
Coarse salt
2 teaspoons sugar
1/2 teaspoon freshly ground pepper

Directions
Preheat oven to 450 degrees. Remove roast from refrigerator. Whisk
oil, flour, 4 teaspoons salt, sugar, and pepper in a small bowl.

Place roast in a roasting pan, ribs side down. Lightly score fat. Rub
roast with flour mixture. Roast for 15 minutes. Reduce heat to 375
degrees, and continue to roast, basting frequently with pan juices,
for 1 hour more. Roast until thickest part registers 135 to 140
degrees on an instant-read thermometer (avoiding the bone) for medium-
rare, about 45 minutes more. (Total cooking time should be about 2
hours.) Transfer to a cutting board, tent with foil, and let rest for
at least 20 minutes (or up to 1 hour) before carving. To carve, cut
between each rib, then cut each slice into desired portions. Serve
with horseradish sauce, or a red wine/mushroom sauce.

From Martha Stewart Living

I've used this method many times, and the results are perfect.  Freeze
left-overs in airtight wrap, in portions so you can thaw for
sandwiches, French Dip hoagies, or just heated up to enjoy again.
Save the juices, too, after skimming the fat off (chill until fat
rises and becomes solid, and then discard the fat).

N.


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dsi1  
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From: dsi1 <d...@humuhumunukunukuapuapa.org>
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:24:09 -1000
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 8:54 am
Subject: Re: Rib Roast

besame...@localnet.com wrote:
> Hi!
> Got a great buy on a huge Cross Rib Roast from Koger's, here in
> Tucson.

> Best Way to cook...oven, crock pot, grill, slice and fry, etcl ?

> can I cut it into small or individual pieces for a bachelor(me) or do
> I cook the whole thing and freeze all but a few portions?

> Never had a Cross Rib Roast before.

> ThanX!  I AM learning!!

If it's a big piece you probably should roast it to rare or med. rare.
Don't expect too much from this cut of meat though, it's different from
a rib roast. I'd go kinda heavy on the salt and pepper and whatever else
you season it with. As far as roasts goes, it's rather tasteless. To
serve, you should cut into thin slices.

Over here, that cut will frequently be sold thinly sliced. We like to
marinate it in teriyaki sauce and charcoal grill it.


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From: brooklyn1 <gravesen...@verizon.net>
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:37:16 -0500
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 9:07 am
Subject: Re: Rib Roast
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:24:09 -1000, dsi1

Yeah, right... slice it crossribwise! ahahahaha. . .
http://www.askthemeatman.com/beef_chuck_primal_cuts.htm

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Melba's Jammin'  
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From: Melba's Jammin' <barbschal...@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:19:46 -0600
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 9:49 am
Subject: Re: Rib Roast
In article
<87eb148b-b3d2-405e-bc4f-f696c5f01...@b25g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,

 besame...@localnet.com wrote:
> Hi!
> Got a great buy on a huge Cross Rib Roast from Koger's, here in
> Tucson.

> Best Way to cook...oven, crock pot, grill, slice and fry, etcl ?

> can I cut it into small or individual pieces for a bachelor(me) or do
> I cook the whole thing and freeze all but a few portions?

> Never had a Cross Rib Roast before.

> ThanX!  I AM learning!!

I believe a cross rib roast is from the chuck.  Low and slow and moist.  
Pot roast.

Yup, it is.  I just double checked:
http://www.all-about-meat.com/beef-roast.html
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller - Who Said Chickens Have Fingers?
10-30-2009


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From: dsi1 <d...@humuhumunukunukuapuapa.org>
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:36:50 -1000
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 10:06 am
Subject: Re: Rib Roast

Ya big goof ball, obviously, this is not the same thing as what I'm
talking about - ahahahahah yourself! :-)

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From: dsi1 <d...@humuhumunukunukuapuapa.org>
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:24:43 -1000
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Subject: Re: Rib Roast
Sqwertz wrote:

  >

> I say again - a cross rib roast is a piece of chuck.  Needs cooked
> like pot roast.

> -sw

Say it all you want. I've got a chuck roast in my refrigerator as we
speak - this of course, will be a pot roast. I know what a stinkin'
chuck roast is!

My guess is that we're simply talking about two different things. The
cross rib roast I'm referring ain't no chuck and it ain't much good for
any other treatment than what I describe. Ether way, it's not very good
anyway. That's the breaks. :-)


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Mikie  
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From: Mikie <besame...@localnet.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:45:37 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 11:15 am
Subject: Re: Rib Roast
On Nov 3, 1:02 pm, Nancy2 <nancy-doo...@uiowa.edu> wrote:

Dear N,
Give yourself a great big hug ; you're a nice person with  heart and
empathy. I can tell!!!  The rest.....well, I didn't get any help but
some off- beat   kinds of comments. Thank you N,!!!  I'm bachin' and
trying to learn. The package actually reads CROSS RIB ROAST and has
some initials after that, BNLS probably to mean -boneless.Could
Krogers, a huge nationwide supermarket chain under different names,
NOT   KNOW that there is no such thing as a boneless Cross Rib Roast?
Hmmm? I wonder.

May God's angels smile on you and all those you love,  forever...Mikie
(Michael)


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Mikie  
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From: Mikie <besame...@localnet.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:58:28 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Rib Roast
On Nov 3, 4:24 pm, dsi1 <d...@humuhumunukunukuapuapa.org> wrote:

I have always cooked chuck roasts! Come to the southwest where Tacos,
enchiladas, burritos and chimichangas are made froim Chuck roasts!  We
brown, and OVER cook in a crock pot.  When we remove it, it virtually
falls apart!  Then we peel, or pull until we have a bowl of shredded
beef. Add onions and garlic and spices and fry . Use to fill tortillas
to make any one of the things I mentioned above. Cover with salsa, add
cheese on top,warm to melt cheese.. and OLE!!!!!  Never heard of
Mexican Food?  Poor peoples food? At least, we're humble!

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From: dsi1 <d...@humuhumunukunukuapuapa.org>
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:25:13 -1000
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Subject: Re: Rib Roast

Are you kidding? You don't have to sell me on that kind of food! The
trouble with Hawaii is that we don't have enough of you guys over here.
I'm gonna have to move over there to get some good eats! :-)

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From: Don Martinich <dmartin...@att.net>
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:22:06 -0800
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Subject: Re: Rib Roast
In article
<87eb148b-b3d2-405e-bc4f-f696c5f01...@b25g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,

 besame...@localnet.com wrote:
> Hi!
> Got a great buy on a huge Cross Rib Roast from Koger's, here in
> Tucson.

> Best Way to cook...oven, crock pot, grill, slice and fry, etcl ?

> can I cut it into small or individual pieces for a bachelor(me) or do
> I cook the whole thing and freeze all but a few portions?

> Never had a Cross Rib Roast before.

> ThanX!  I AM learning!!

There's at least two cuts from the chuck called crossrib. In California
it's cut from close to the rib end and is a reasonably tender, lean
roast. And at a third of the price of ribeye. It can definitely be dry
roasted but some of lower grades of beef found in many supermarkets
(like Safeway) can be pretty chewy. In the east a 'cross rib' is
adjacent to the short ribs and definitely needs braising.

D.M.


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From: dsi1 <d...@humuhumunukunukuapuapa.org>
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:39:22 -1000
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 2:09 pm
Subject: Re: Rib Roast

Here's a picture of what I'm talking about. Is this your piece of meat?
To tell the truth, I'm not sure what your point is.

http://recipesfromthesouth.com/index.php?p=1_4_Weekly-Entree


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From: brooklyn1 <gravesen...@verizon.net>
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:56:43 -0500
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Subject: Re: Rib Roast
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:22:06 -0800, Don Martinich <dmartin...@att.net>
wrote:

Puh-leeze... everyone knows Californea USDA recognizes transvestite
cuts.

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From: Nancy2 <nancy-doo...@uiowa.edu>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:29:54 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 4:59 am
Subject: Re: Rib Roast
On Nov 3, 5:45 pm, Mikie <besame...@localnet.com> wrote:

Well, according to the info here, a cross rib roast is a chuck roast -
a crockpot is your friend - if you don't have one, any oven-proof
kinda deep cooking pot with a lid will work.  The key for cooking it
is "low and slow."

Pot Roast (from Martha)

Inexpensive chuck is one of the most flavorful cuts of beef. Simmering
it slowly and gently in the oven makes the beef wonderfully tender.

Note: Browning the meat makes the whole dish tastier and gives the pan
juices an appetizing deep brown color.

Prep: 25 minutes
Total: 4 hours 25 minutes

Ingredients
Serves 8
2 tablespoons vegetable oil
1 5-pound beef chuck roast
Salt and pepper
2 cups beef stock or reduced sodium canned beef broth
1/2 cup red wine (optional)
3 onions, cut into large wedges
4 cloves garlic , chopped
2 dried bay leaves
1 teaspoon dried thyme
2 tablespoons tomato paste
2 pounds carrots, cut into 1 1/2-inch chunks
2 pounds potatoes, cut into 1 1/2-inch chunks  (If you prepare the
potatoes a while before you add them to the roast, be sure to keep
them covered with water, so they don't turn brown.)

Directions
Preheat oven to 350 degrees. In a Dutch oven, heat oil over medium-
high heat. Sprinkle roast all over with 1 teaspoon salt and 1/2
teaspoon pepper. Place in pan, and brown on all sides, about 10
minutes.
Turn meat fat side up. Add stock, wine, if using, onions, garlic, bay
leaves, and thyme. Stir in tomato paste. Bring to a simmer, cover; put
in the oven, and roast for 3 hours. Add carrots and potatoes, and cook
until vegetables are tender, about 1 hour more.

Transfer the roast, carrots, and potatoes to a platter. With a spoon,
skim the fat off the surface of the cooking liquid. Cut the roast into
thick slices, and serve with the vegetables. Pass the pan juices
separately.

From Martha.


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From: "Dimitri" <Dimitr...@prodigy.net>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:45:41 -0800
Local: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 6:15 am
Subject: Re: Rib Roast

<besame...@localnet.com> wrote in message

news:87eb148b-b3d2-405e-bc4f-f696c5f01940@b25g2000prb.googlegroups.com...

> Hi!
> Got a great buy on a huge Cross Rib Roast from Koger's, here in
> Tucson.

> Best Way to cook...oven, crock pot, grill, slice and fry, etcl ?

> can I cut it into small or individual pieces for a bachelor(me) or do
> I cook the whole thing and freeze all but a few portions?

> Never had a Cross Rib Roast before.

> ThanX!  I AM learning!!

 as good as any:

Recipe below:

--
Dimitri

Last minute grilled Cardboard :-)

http://kitchenguide.wordpress.com.

http://www.cookingcache.com/beef/momsfamousgarliccrossribroast.shtml?...

 Cross Rib Roast (5-7 lbs.)

1/3 cup Dijon mustard
10 large garlic cloves crushed
1/2 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
1 tablespoon garlic powder
salt and pepper to taste
1 tablespoon dry mustard
2 tablespoons light olive oil
1 tablespoon paprika
1 1/4 cup water
1/2 cup red wine
1 packet beef gravy mix
1 packet dry onion soup
1 10 ounce can Golden Mushroom Soup

Pre-heat oven to 375°F. A Cross Rib is a cut that is between the shoulder,
(sometimes known as the chuck) and rib of a the whole side of beef. You may
have to ask for it if you do not find it in the meat section. This roast
resembles a round roast, but is surrounded about three quarters around with
short ribs. Generally, it is not as expensive as the classic rib roast but
it is not a tough bargain either (such as rump or blade). Place meat in a
shallow roasting pan. Make a paste by mixing the mustard with the garlic,
some salt and black pepper, garlic powder, dry mustard, oil and paprika.
Spread over roast- top and sides. Make additional paste if meat is not well
covered. On side of roast, pour in water, wine, beef gravy mix and onion
soup powder. Sprinkle top of roast generously with extra garlic and paprika.
Cover roast with foil. Roast at 375°F for the first hour. Reduce temperature
to 350°F and continue roasting for a couple of hours (depending on desired
doneness) -basting every so often. Remove foil during last half hour of
cooking. Remove meat slice thinly. In roasting pan, stir in Golden Mushroom
soup with pan juices, mixing well. Pour some of this over meat, offering
remaining as gravy. Serve cold (leftovers) sliced thinly on a garlic toasted
French hard roll, with Dijon and white horseradish, side salad.


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From: Mikie <besame...@localnet.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:28:25 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 7:58 am
Subject: Re: Rib Roast
On Nov 3, 7:39 pm, dsi1 <d...@humuhumunukunukuapuapa.org> wrote:

Yes!  Read my post again!

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From: Mikie <besame...@localnet.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:40:54 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 8:10 am
Subject: Re: Rib Roast
On Nov 4, 11:45 am, "Dimitri" <Dimitr...@prodigy.net> wrote:

THANK YOU ALL WHO TOOK ME SERIOUS!!  I spoke to the Butcher at Krogers
and I'll have to accept his answer because all you guys confused
me...except for the beautiful people who gave me cooking instructions.
BUTCHER: "as the label shows, it's a 'Cross Rib Roast, minus the
bone'! The best an only way to get the taste...in a CROCK POT (RIVAL).
Brown first,  Fill Pot to within 1/2 below  roast  Add a pre packaged
amount of dry onion soup for spicing and taste, let her cook for 6
hours on high...YUM YUM!! And to think my mother used to say there's a
special place in Hell for butchers!!! Mine never puts his thumb on the
scale!

Bye!  FINITO, I hope!


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From: Nancy2 <nancy-doo...@uiowa.edu>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:40:04 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 9:10 am
Subject: Re: Rib Roast
On Nov 3, 8:39 pm, dsi1 <d...@humuhumunukunukuapuapa.org> wrote:

This pic looks like a rolled rib roast - I've never seen a chuck roast
that looks like this.  The link seems to treat oven roasting 3
different cuts of meat all the same....wrong.  A rib roast is much
more tender than a cross rib roast or a sirloin tip roast....

N.


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dsi1  
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 More options Nov 5, 12:19 pm
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From: dsi1 <d...@humuhumunukunukuapuapa.org>
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:49:46 -1000
Local: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 12:19 pm
Subject: Re: Rib Roast

Nancy2 wrote:

> This pic looks like a rolled rib roast - I've never seen a chuck roast
> that looks like this.  The link seems to treat oven roasting 3
> different cuts of meat all the same....wrong.  A rib roast is much
> more tender than a cross rib roast or a sirloin tip roast....

In my part of the woods they call that piece of meat a cross rib roast.
"Rolled rib roast" seems to be a more apt description so I guess your
part of the country is better at naming meat. If I had my way, a
standing rib roast would be the only cut eligible for the name "rib
roast." This will indeed happen once I become ruler of the world.


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From: dsi1 <d...@humuhumunukunukuapuapa.org>
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:57:17 -1000
Local: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 2:27 pm
Subject: Re: Rib Roast

Here's another picture - look at the picture called "Cross Rib Roast."

http://www.humboldtgrassfedbeef.com/recipes.html

What's the big deal anyway? I don't care what you call this piece of
meat. We call it a cross rib roast. You guys are just smarter that us
dumb Hawaiians. Now go celebrate your victory. :-)


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From: Dan Abel <da...@sonic.net>
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:07:12 -0800
Local: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 2:37 pm
Subject: Re: Rib Roast
In article <jipIm.23$ZF3...@newsfe13.iad>,

 dsi1 <d...@humuhumunukunukuapuapa.org> wrote:
> If I had my way, a
> standing rib roast would be the only cut eligible for the name "rib
> roast." This will indeed happen once I become ruler of the world.

[puts on flameproof suit]

prime rib

NOT USDA prime rib

in the US

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
da...@sonic.net


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From: dsi1 <d...@humuhumunukunukuapuapa.org>
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:20:13 -1000
Local: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 2:50 pm
Subject: Re: Rib Roast

Good idea - prime rib it is! When I'm ruler of the world, you can be in
charge of meat naming. Apparently, things are worst than I thought! :-)

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