We have a Champion juicer and I was hoping there was an attachment for the strong motor it has, but they don't make one. Please tell me about what you have and why you like it. Thanks, Nan
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:08:36 -0800 (PST), Nan <nann...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>We have a Champion juicer and I was hoping there was an attachment for >the strong motor it has, but they don't make one. >Please tell me about what you have and why you like it. >Thanks, Nan
I have an Outfitters Ridge. I like it because i got it new in the box for only 15 bucks. It works like a champ, has a decent sized tube, and is easy to clean. I haven't used the sausage stuffer yet so i can't comment on it. Here's the same one on eBay but for more money than I paid.
Nan wrote: > We have a Champion juicer and I was hoping there was an attachment for > the strong motor it has, but they don't make one. > Please tell me about what you have and why you like it. > Thanks, Nan
I have an old Chop-Rite #10 that I bought 30 years ago (clamps on the edge of a table), and a few years ago I bought an electric #12 from Northern Hydraulic, now called Northern Tool. I think this is the same model: http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_36...
I like it because it takes the same plates as my old Chop-Rite, and it has a large feed tube so I can cut the meat into quite large strips and it will handle it. It will grind up a whole brisket in just a few minutes.
I would not get anything smaller than a heavy-duty #8 grinder.
> > We have a Champion juicer and I was hoping there was an attachment for > > the strong motor it has, but they don't make one. > > Please tell me about what you have and why you like it. > > Thanks, Nan
> I have an old Chop-Rite #10 that I bought 30 years ago (clamps on the > edge of a table), and a few years ago I bought an electric #12 from > Northern Hydraulic, now called Northern Tool. I think this is the > same model: > http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_36...
> I like it because it takes the same plates as my old Chop-Rite, and it > has a large feed tube so I can cut the meat into quite large strips > and it will handle it. It will grind up a whole brisket in just a few > minutes.
> I would not get anything smaller than a heavy-duty #8 grinder.
> Bob
If you have a Kitchenaid stand mixer (or compatible like Hobart N-50), the grinder attachment works well. I wouldn't try to use it to process a huge amount of meat at one time, but it does just fine for up to say 6# of meat at a time which would certainly cover most normal meals. I also find that it only takes a few minutes to tear down and wash once you've done it a few times.
> We have a Champion juicer and I was hoping there was an attachment for > the strong motor it has, but they don't make one. > Please tell me about what you have and why you like it. > Thanks, Nan
There used to be a meat grinder attachment for the Champion, and you can still find them now and then on eBay. However, it has no reduction gear. I think the Champion motor spins way too fast for grinding meat without a reduction gear.
I have a KitchenAid stand mixer and the meat grinder accessory. Also the sausage stuffer, a nice add-on. The mixer gets very frequent use. The meat grinder gets less frequent but regular use. We don't use ground meat often, but when we do use it almost always we grind it ourselves. Far higher quality, lower cost, and full control over fat content etc. The sausage stuffer is really neat, and home made sausages are so delicious.
The meat grinder accessory is very easy to clean. Some gristle may have to be pulled off the spindle by hand, but then all the parts can go in the dishwasher. It is easy to wash by hand too.
If you process more than 10 pounds at one time, try to find a local meat packer and have them do it for you. Know any hunters? They'll know who the local packers are.
Nan wrote: > We have a Champion juicer and I was hoping there was an attachment for > the strong motor it has, but they don't make one. > Please tell me about what you have and why you like it. > Thanks, Nan
We use an Oster Electric Meat Grinder. When our local market has beef on sale (in a cryovac package), usually 25 pound packages I will buy one. I cut it up into a few 3 pound roasts and then grind the rest for burgers, meatloaf, meatballs, etc. When I do meat loaf I throw everything in the grinder, bread, onion, spices. It is a great meat grinder. Save about 50% off buying this way.
We lent the grinder to a neighbor who wanted to grind up his deer meat. Deer meat was too much for the grinder, he broke it. The gears inside are plastic and they broke. I was going to get the parts and repair, but I luckily found another grinder at a yard sale. I don't lend it out anymore.... -- Skype <fxdlrider2>
On Nov 2, 10:08 am, Nan <nann...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> We have a Champion juicer and I was hoping there was an attachment for > the strong motor it has, but they don't make one. > Please tell me about what you have and why you like it. > Thanks, Nan
I bought one of these-- a Universal No. 2 -- from a junque shoppe, in the days before eBay. I like it because it's indestructible. I clamp it to my cutting board countertop and away I go. I only grind 2-3 pounds at a time, though. Grind your meat once for coarse, and twice for fine.
My grandmother had given me her old Dazey grinder before that. But -- the Dazey used a vacuum clamp to hold it to the counter, and the clamp would no longer hold. And when I tried to get it repaired, Dazey said they only supported their electrically powered equipment.
Pologirl <polog...@att.net> wrote: >I have a KitchenAid stand mixer and the meat grinder accessory. Also >the sausage stuffer, a nice add-on. The mixer gets very frequent >use. The meat grinder gets less frequent but regular use. We don't >use ground meat often, but when we do use it almost always we grind it >ourselves. Far higher quality, lower cost, and full control over fat >content etc. The sausage stuffer is really neat, and home made >sausages are so delicious.
>The meat grinder accessory is very easy to clean. Some gristle may >have to be pulled off the spindle by hand, but then all the parts can >go in the dishwasher. It is easy to wash by hand too.
>If you process more than 10 pounds at one time, try to find a local >meat packer and have them do it for you. Know any hunters? They'll >know who the local packers are.
>Pologirl
Wrong answer... if you have more meat than your teeny grinder can handle thats all the more reason to own a larger grinder of your own, the larger the quantity of meat the more reason to own ones own grinder. Having someone else grind your meat regardless of quantity is never a solution... then you're back where you started from, mystery meat, only worse because now instead of having a tiny bit of mystery meat you have a whole boatload of mystery meat. With all your talk about cleaning your grinder then what is the point of someone else grinding your meat with their schmutzic grinder. That's the main purpose of owning ones own grinder, so that they know with absolute certainty that all aspects of grinding are done clean.
I hope no one will be running out to buy one of those tiny cheapo attachment grinders, they are so small that most folks will continue to buy pregrond mystery meat because it's just too much trouble to grind meat with the toys r us thingie, plus they don't produce a very good grind anyway, they produce mostly smeared meat... mostly what they do is take a nice piece of pricy meat and turn it into pet food, clean pet food but pet food never the less.
Anyone contemplating buying a meat grinder I strongly suggest buying the largest best quality grinder they can afford that is suitable for the home cook... if you can't afford your dream grinder right now then save your pennies until you can, you won't be sorry. The Waring Pro from Cabelas is an excellent buy, for home use anything with greater capacity is over engineered... if you can afford $500 for a grinder and your ego feels neglected then go for it but you really don't need a commercial grinder for home use... would be like buying a 38DD bra when you really wear a 36C.
spamtrap1888 wrote: > On Nov 2, 10:08 am, Nan <nann...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> We have a Champion juicer and I was hoping there was an attachment for >> the strong motor it has, but they don't make one. >> Please tell me about what you have and why you like it. >> Thanks, Nan
> I bought one of these-- a Universal No. 2 -- from a junque shoppe, in > the days before eBay. I like it because it's indestructible. I clamp > it to my cutting board countertop and away I go. I only grind 2-3 > pounds at a time, though. Grind your meat once for coarse, and twice > for fine.
> My grandmother had given me her old Dazey grinder before that. But -- > the Dazey used a vacuum clamp to hold it to the counter, and the clamp > would no longer hold. And when I tried to get it repaired, Dazey said > they only supported their electrically powered equipment.
> We have a Champion juicer and I was hoping there was an attachment for > the strong motor it has, but they don't make one. > Please tell me about what you have and why you like it. > Thanks, Nan
We have two:
The grinder attachment for the KA. Works well and fairly easy to clean.
A hand-cranked cast iron version brought over from Holland. Also works well and easy to clean. Heavy as all get-out though LOL.
On Nov 2, 12:08 pm, Nan <nann...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> We have a Champion juicer and I was hoping there was an attachment for > the strong motor it has, but they don't make one. > Please tell me about what you have and why you like it.
I bought one off ebay for about $20. It's fine, except that the suction cup isn't perfect. I have used my Cuisinart to chop meat, but it was more like pulverized, like Taco Bell taco meat. I still happily use store ground beef, especially when I'm cooking it well done. I tell you a fun thing to do. Use a strip steak that's an inch and a half. Trim it a bit and pepper the remaining fat, and the meat next to the bone. Seriously sear it over a wood fire on a Weber Kettle, then cap the kettle to smoke, leaving it blue rare. Grind and serve on a platter with the bones behind the ground meat, and stale toasted Italian bread pieces. I'd have a few shakers with fine ground salt available.
On Nov 2, 3:32 pm, brooklyn1 <gravesen...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Wrong answer... if you have more meat than your teeny grinder can > handle thats all the more reason to own a larger grinder of your own, > the larger the quantity of meat the more reason to own ones own > grinder.
Depends how many times a year you use it, and how much you want to spend on a grinder and a freezer etc. Some meat packers are immaculate. I will buy ground meat from some supermarkets, not from others. My local supermarket is not one of them. These days real butcher shops are few and far between.
Pologirl writes: brooklyn1 wrote: >> Wrong answer... if you have more meat than your teeny grinder can >> handle thats all the more reason to own a larger grinder of your own, >> the larger the quantity of meat the more reason to own ones own >> grinder.
>Depends how many times a year you use it, and how much you want to >spend on a grinder and a freezer etc. Some meat packers are >immaculate. I will buy ground meat from some supermarkets, not from >others. My local supermarket is not one of them. These days real >butcher shops are few and far between.
Cop out alert!
Uncanny how I can always pick out the cheapo bastard back pedaling phonys who own no kind of grinder but like to pretend they do just so they can have something to say in a thread.
On Nov 2, 7:55 pm, brooklyn1 <gravesen...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Uncanny how I can always pick out the cheapo bastard back pedaling > phonys who own no kind of grinder but like to pretend they do just so > they can have something to say in a thread.
I had ground elk steak Russian style for dinner a couple nights ago. Mmm... The meat was a gift from the hunter, ground and packed in 1 pound units by a local packer. Neener neener.
> Wrong answer... if you have more meat than your teeny grinder can > handle thats all the more reason to own a larger grinder of your own, > the larger the quantity of meat the more reason to own ones own > grinder.
Depends how many times a year you use it, and how much you want to spend on a grinder and a freezer etc. Some meat packers are immaculate. I will buy ground meat from some supermarkets, not from others. My local supermarket is not one of them. These days real butcher shops are few and far between.
I am only cooking for two of us now, but I still like to grind my meat freshly when I want to use it. I prefer to do it myself for many reasons which I am sure you already know if you are interested in grinders and read here.
> "Pologirl" <polog...@att.net> wrote in message > news:44d41894-f4c4-433d-8d3d-26f5f0589877@k13g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > On Nov 2, 3:32 pm, brooklyn1 <gravesen...@verizon.net> wrote: > > Wrong answer... if you have more meat than your teeny grinder can > > handle thats all the more reason to own a larger grinder of your own, > > the larger the quantity of meat the more reason to own ones own > > grinder.
> Depends how many times a year you use it, and how much you want to > spend on a grinder and a freezer etc. Some meat packers are > immaculate. I will buy ground meat from some supermarkets, not from > others. My local supermarket is not one of them. These days real > butcher shops are few and far between.
> I am only cooking for two of us now, but I still like to grind my meat > freshly when I want to use it. I prefer to do it myself for many reasons > which I am sure you already know if you are interested in grinders and read > here.
> "Pologirl" <polog...@att.net> wrote in message > news:44d41894-f4c4-433d-8d3d-26f5f0589877@k13g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > On Nov 2, 3:32 pm, brooklyn1 <gravesen...@verizon.net> wrote: > > Wrong answer... if you have more meat than your teeny grinder can > > handle thats all the more reason to own a larger grinder of your own, > > the larger the quantity of meat the more reason to own ones own > > grinder.
> Depends how many times a year you use it, and how much you want to > spend on a grinder and a freezer etc. Some meat packers are > immaculate. I will buy ground meat from some supermarkets, not from > others. My local supermarket is not one of them. These days real > butcher shops are few and far between.
> I am only cooking for two of us now, but I still like to grind my meat > freshly when I want to use it. I prefer to do it myself for many reasons > which I am sure you already know if you are interested in grinders and read > here.
When cooking for a few servings, the smaller grinders like the Kitchenaid attachment are better suited to the task. Indeed grinding and storing large batches of meat at home pretty much defeats the purposes of home grinding - to eliminate the off taste from oxidation and to eliminate contamination issues. If you want to buy large portions of cheap meat to freeze, freeze them in whole primal cuts and only grind them when you are ready to use them.
On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:55:11 -0500, brooklyn1 wrote: > Pologirl writes: > brooklyn1 wrote: >>> Wrong answer... if you have more meat than your teeny grinder can >>> handle thats all the more reason to own a larger grinder of your own, >>> the larger the quantity of meat the more reason to own ones own >>> grinder.
>>Depends how many times a year you use it, and how much you want to >>spend on a grinder and a freezer etc. Some meat packers are >>immaculate. I will buy ground meat from some supermarkets, not from >>others. My local supermarket is not one of them. These days real >>butcher shops are few and far between.
> Cop out alert!
> Uncanny how I can always pick out the cheapo bastard back pedaling > phonys who own no kind of grinder but like to pretend they do just so > they can have something to say in a thread.
yep, sheldon, you are ever the shrewd judge of human character. must be the outsider's point of view.
>Nan wrote: >> We have a Champion juicer and I was hoping there was an attachment for >> the strong motor it has, but they don't make one. >> Please tell me about what you have and why you like it. >> Thanks, Nan
>We use an Oster Electric Meat Grinder. When our local market has beef on >sale (in a cryovac package), usually 25 pound packages I will buy one. >I cut it up into a few 3 pound roasts and then grind the rest for >burgers, meatloaf, meatballs, etc. When I do meat loaf I throw >everything in the grinder, bread, onion, spices. It is a great meat >grinder. Save about 50% off buying this way.
>We lent the grinder to a neighbor who wanted to grind up his deer meat. >Deer meat was too much for the grinder, he broke it. The gears inside >are plastic and they broke. I was going to get the parts and repair, >but I luckily found another grinder at a yard sale. I don't lend it out >anymore....
Lending tools out is only a good thing for the borrower.
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:08:36 -0800 (PST), Nan <nann...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>We have a Champion juicer and I was hoping there was an attachment for >the strong motor it has, but they don't make one. >Please tell me about what you have and why you like it. >Thanks, Nan
OK, I have 2 grinders, not counting the old manual clamp down hand cranker, which I do not use any more (arthritis in hands and wrists.) One is a KitchenAid on a K-6, and it works ok for most things (there are just the two of us, but if you're going to get out the gear you might as well make a big batch.) Have the Sausage stuffer and it works fine, but then what's to fail? It's just a tube.
I also have a VillaWare dedicated counter top grinder whose working body is about the same as that of the KitchenAid grinder attachment. Pro's are: Both are generally good and most of the parts are dishwasher safe. Both turn out good product, without tendency to jam. Both are the corkscrew drive types, so neither is easier than the other to clean. Both have good motors, so I have had no probs grinding meats with either one. Good sausage stuffers on both. A nice feature on the V/W, is a switch that lets you say "Oops!" and "Reverse that Motor!" OCcasionallyl useful.
Cons: Both are of limited output, but I can run them side by side, which is a help. For sharpness, both have carbon steel cutter blades and face plates, so I don't wash them in the dishwasher. Drive screws, grinder bodies and locking rings are all OK in the D/W. I like the VillaWare's aluminum locking ring, as it never sticks. The VillaWare is very noisy, but compared to the KA, it was a steal. Since I am partially deaf, it doesn't bother me much. However, if you had a burning need to grind pork for breakfast sausage at, say, 2:30 AM, no one in the house would get any sleep. for the racket.
Oh, last thing. The plates and cutters on the V/W grinder do not fit the KA, and vice versa. Bummer!
The V/W unit came with 3 face plates. I like that. Model is 5625-05, white plastic case, 320 watt. You can see at Amazon.com.
Note: VillaWare is a Jarden Appliance Products brand and they are not known for great customer service.
The newer ProGrinder sells for about the same, but has a 375 Watt motor and a S/S case. Street prices about 80 or 90 $USD. I gave $56 for mine. (Tuesday Morning)
HTH, and good luck.
Alex, who will beg Omelet for her breakfast sausage recipe and wait for a pork shoulder sale.
P.S. : Home-made sausage is a revelation. I prefer small batch stuff like Aidell's (out of San Francisco), when I buy commercial sausage, Their page is worth a look. Aidells.com. Imagine making your own pork links with sun dried tomato and mozerella. Or chicken/apple, when apple wood smoked. The mind boggles. Pork and mango?
<prussianblu...@verizon.net> wrote: >On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:08:36 -0800 (PST), Nan <nann...@yahoo.com> >wrote:
>OK, I have 2 grinders, not counting the old manual clamp down >hand cranker, which I do not use any more (arthritis in hands >and wrists.) One is a KitchenAid on a K-6, and it works ok for >most things (there are just the two of us, but if you're going >to get out the gear you might as well make a big batch.)
>Have the Sausage stuffer and it works fine, but then what's to fail? >It's just a tube.
>>On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:08:36 -0800 (PST), Nan <nann...@yahoo.com> >>wrote:
>>OK, I have 2 grinders, not counting the old manual clamp down >>hand cranker, which I do not use any more (arthritis in hands >>and wrists.) One is a KitchenAid on a K-6, and it works ok for >>most things (there are just the two of us, but if you're going >>to get out the gear you might as well make a big batch.)
>>Have the Sausage stuffer and it works fine, but then what's to fail? >>It's just a tube.
>Just a tube eh... then why all that Viagra? ;)
' SoKay, Ma fren'. A tube am a tube, and sometimes they don't work so good, but my tubes, they be OK. Mosttimes, anyway. Except on Mondays.
Viagra? NO in this house there only be Cialis. It comes with Vista, that little cranking wheel that tells you Microsoft has a wanking subroutine built into Vista.
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