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  <title type="text">alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt Google Group</title>
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  Building your PC from motherboards and cards.
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  <updated>2009-11-22T07:58:17Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>Paul</name>
  <email>nos...@needed.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-22T07:58:17Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Hardware problem - RAM or MOBO?</title>
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  It probably means the list on the web site is not up to date. Although &lt;br&gt; sometimes, you can see messages on the BIOS screen that would suggest to &lt;br&gt; you the BIOS isn&#39;t happy. (Like updating NVRAM on every startup.) &lt;br&gt; The P16 BIOS says &amp;quot;Update CPU Micro Code&amp;quot;, which is a way of saying &lt;br&gt; they&#39;ve added some (unknown) new CPU support. The CPUSupport web page
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  <author>
  <name>M Bourgon</name>
  <email>bour...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-22T07:46:02Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Hardware problem - RAM or MOBO?</title>
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  2nd power supply (I was at 550, which was at the low end of &lt;br&gt; recommended, and it seemed that plugging in another HD was causing &lt;br&gt; problems. &lt;br&gt; BIOS - I&#39;ve got the latest from their site, though it&#39;s hard to tell &lt;br&gt; when it&#39;s from. (p16). I have no idea about over/undervolting the &lt;br&gt; RAM, especially if that&#39;s going to void the warranty.
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  <author>
  <name>Ron</name>
  <email>rmoor...@ix.netcom.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-22T05:14:07Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: New Window 7 build</title>
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  Ron wrote: &lt;br&gt; Paul, &lt;br&gt; I&#39;ve read through everything you provided and found it easy to &lt;br&gt; understand and follow. I believe I&#39;ll stay with the E8500 and not fret &lt;br&gt; about 64-bit processing. I don&#39;t have any real plans for anything as &lt;br&gt; intensive as video authoring, so the two cores should be fine. I may &lt;br&gt; eventually upgrade from CS2 to CS(x), but as a semi-retired pro, I&#39;m
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  <name>kony</name>
  <email>s...@spam.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-22T03:10:53Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: ALWAYS close USB flash drive before removing?</title>
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  On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:02:30 +0000 (UTC), Jerry Peters &lt;br&gt; Which is like saying &amp;quot;I&#39;ll wear my tin-foil cap just in case &lt;br&gt; aliens come&amp;quot;. &lt;br&gt; I do feel sympathy for those who live in such mindless &lt;br&gt; conditions... they: &lt;br&gt; A) Trust MS with their data in the first place. &lt;br&gt; B) Don&#39;t trust that when MS claims you can leave it set for
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  <author>
  <name>Ron</name>
  <email>rmoor...@ix.netcom.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-22T02:37:32Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: New Window 7 build</title>
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  Paul wrote: &lt;br&gt; Big snip &lt;br&gt; Many thanks for the heads up on CPUs. Since I already have the 32-bit OS &lt;br&gt; and most of my familiar s/w is the same, I had a feeling I&#39;d probably &lt;br&gt; stay there. The CPU is another story. You&#39;ve given me some excellent &lt;br&gt; ways to make a reasoned decision, and I&#39;ll go through these later tonight.
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  <author>
  <name>Paul</name>
  <email>nos...@needed.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-22T01:49:46Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: New Window 7 build</title>
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  Ron wrote: &lt;br&gt; First, when buying Intel processors, you should find as much info as &lt;br&gt; you can about the feature set. &lt;br&gt; The various processor families are here. &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://ark.intel.com&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; The reason for visiting there, is to make sure you buy a processor that &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;has all the tick marks&amp;quot;. What are the important tick marks ? Let&#39;s
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  <author>
  <name>Paul</name>
  <email>nos...@needed.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-22T00:52:31Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Hardware problem - RAM or MOBO?</title>
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  Is your BIOS flashed up to date ? It looks like their last BIOS was &lt;br&gt; issued a year ago. Sometimes a different BIOS can give entirely &lt;br&gt; different observable stability. Read the warnings in the flash &lt;br&gt; descriptions here, as to what Foxconn tools not to use, to update &lt;br&gt; the flash. (There appears to be an 8 pin serial SPI flash chip,
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  <author>
  <name>Paul</name>
  <email>nos...@needed.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-22T00:20:05Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Mobo vs PS problem</title>
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  In terms of things to look at, if the motherboard had a LED that &lt;br&gt; monitored +5VSB, I might watch that during a scroll-related failure. &lt;br&gt; +5VSB should never blink or glitch. Asus motherboards generally all &lt;br&gt; have a LED fitted to +5VSB, which is a convenient warning that the &lt;br&gt; motherboard still has power. Other brands, aren&#39;t likely to provide that.
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  <author>
  <name>Ron</name>
  <email>rmoor...@ix.netcom.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-21T22:55:22Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: New Window 7 build</title>
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  Ron wrote: &lt;br&gt; Should have mentioned I&#39;ll add another HD after the initial setup, but &lt;br&gt; not for RAID. I back up to my server. &lt;br&gt; Ron
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  <author>
  <name>Ron</name>
  <email>rmoor...@ix.netcom.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-21T22:52:12Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">New Window 7 build</title>
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  For the first time in quite a while, I&#39;m assembling a primary desktop &lt;br&gt; strictly to run Win 7 Ultimate (32-bit). I acquired the OS when I was a &lt;br&gt; Technet subscriber and hadn&#39;t worked with 64-bit systems much, so 32-bit &lt;br&gt; was my first choice. After reflection, I may eventually go the 64-bit &lt;br&gt; Win 7 Professional route, but that&#39;s not on the plate yet.
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  <author>
  <name>John Jordan</name>
  <email>j...@jaj22.org.uk</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-21T22:24:36Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.nf/group/alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt/browse_frm/thread/f1a5514b419dd4c2/7f9450b3a63a83cd?show_docid=7f9450b3a63a83cd"/>
  <title type="text">Re: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general</title>
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  No. A repair install reverts XP to the version on the CD, which is why &lt;br&gt; it&#39;s actually useful. It&#39;s not a reliable fix for this sort of problem &lt;br&gt; though - I think you&#39;d have a better chance by obtaining a copy of ERD &lt;br&gt; Commander 2005 and running System Restore from that.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>kathie</name>
  <email>nos...@nomail.invalid</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-21T21:55:55Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general</title>
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  Will hotfixes I have already applied survive the Repair &lt;br&gt; Installation?
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  <author>
  <name>Kent_Diego</name>
  <email>n...@none.no</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-21T21:33:34Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.nf/group/alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt/browse_frm/thread/b879938e95de9caa/ffcbfaffdfd709f4?show_docid=ffcbfaffdfd709f4"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Hardware problem - RAM or MOBO?</title>
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  It could be RAM, motherboard or power supply. Sometimes the power supply &lt;br&gt; connector does not make good contact and gets better if moved. Do you have &lt;br&gt; the latest BIOS for your motherboard? It has been my experience that Memtest &lt;br&gt; errors were always the RAM. Can you over volt the RAM or lower the frequency
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  <author>
  <name>Jerry Peters</name>
  <email>je...@example.invalid</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-21T21:02:30Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.nf/group/alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt/browse_frm/thread/e0c629f1062f7170/f8cb1ab8d50c1b40?show_docid=f8cb1ab8d50c1b40"/>
  <title type="text">Re: ALWAYS close USB flash drive before removing?</title>
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  Until you *do*, of course. &lt;br&gt; Jerry
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  <author>
  <name>GlowingBlueMist</name>
  <email>glowingbluem...@truely.invalid</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-21T20:53:25Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: A long shot...</title>
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  Dense cardboard wrapped in aluminum foil and covered in wide clear tape will &lt;br&gt; work as well once you cut the proper holes with a sharp knife..
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